I went out with a wing that I met from the boot camp I went to named Paul. He is a nice dude, but he is a little newer than me at this stuff so my expectations were low (given that I’m just now becoming a yellow belt). I really want to focus on ramping up my physical escalation for a bit because that seems like my strongest sticking point to me. I want to get good at doing it smoothly and in a way that is empathetic as well.
I strolled into temple nightclub alone, I hadn’t seen Paul yet. I was thinking that I needed to take some action before the nightclub got on top of me and I got in my head. I went to the bathroom first, and then started looking around for something to do. I was getting a bit overwhelmed by the venue at this point. I think that it’s because I hadn’t been out in two weeks since I was on a trip to France. I saw a ton of hot girls and was getting really stoked about the possibilities there. But, I was not immediately taking action at this point. I was feeling a bit in my head and reactive. I knew that I had to snap out of it.
I met up with Paul after I saw him walking into the venue. As we walked in, I started feeling a little more courage or something. It’s funny how social alliances can make you feel like you are more deserving or something. I think that to truly have self confidence in these venues I need to learn how to feel totally confident with or without a social alliance in the venue. Perhaps this will come with time, but I should also go out alone or approach alone more often to build this actively.
I saw a cute mixed girl walking by, third wheeling a couple. I opened immediately and started walking with her a little when the group strolled by. I was just being random and using Julien’s ideas about how to behave in the beginning of the night. Basically, the vibe is that you say and do things that will self amuse you. That is the central focus at this point. I said something like, “Hi, I’m from Boulder, I am not high enough for that city, I need more weed, also, do you have MDMA?” Super random and stupid but I thought it was funny and she started laughing. She stopped to hang with me for a bit and we were vibing for like a minute before her friends grabbed her and pulled her away. I think that the self-amusement and randomness dialogue is pretty good for adding to the fun. I like that it got her interested enough to stop and hang. I was only expecting a short interaction here anyway because it was still the early part of the night.
The next girl that I approached was in the rap room. She was a pink haired girl that I was similarly random and vibey with. I thought she was decently cute and I had fun bullshitting with her. I was saying random things about her hair and asking how it has been impacting her life. I was just fucking around with her about it and saying I wanted to dye my hair blonde to see what that would be like. I started ramping up the escalation when she got her drink. She said she had to go find her friends but she was like let me give you my number and she entered it into my phone. That was a pretty good interaction I felt like I was having fun with it. I think I could have possibly amped up my energy to get her to stay, but it was the first part of the night so my expectations were low.
We walked up to the second floor to see what was up there. I saw a two set with two pretty cute girls. Paul occupied the friend of the girl that I wanted. The girl I spoke with was a really cute blonde girl. I was surprised to see that things were actually going well with this girl. She was letting me escalate and we danced salsa for a bit. We did the prom dance and I kissed her on the neck. I was like wtf this hot girl likes me. That was surreal to see the skills I was learning working in the way that I wanted. It was good to get a brief taste of success. I was thinking of trying to go for a kiss when her friends walked into the set and started grabbing her attention (like 4 guys). They were talking about random shit and I was sort of standing there to the side while she was getting pulled back into the friend group. I was thinking that this was still the early part of the night so I didn’t expect much out of it. I got her instagram and bounced. I think that I need to learn how to deal with friend groups coming in so that I can keep commanding the attention of the girl. I did a lame thing by just walking away there, because that girl was super hot and cool. I think I could have made it work she seemed actually into me. Also, I should have led her more, perhaps I could have gotten her outside or to the dance floor.
Then we headed downstairs and I saw a two set. One of the girls had a shirt with Jesus on. I bowed to her because of that. She was asian so she and her friend said that I was being racist. I was surprised that they thought that. I ended up saving the conversation by being really flowing and self amusing. It was fun to experience this set. I was having such a good time creating my own party that the negativity of this girl could not get me down. I was just being super quick and funny. I kept her hooked for another like 10 minutes as a result of this. I tried to grab her hand to escalate twice and she would not take it. This was also a good move. I saw quickly that it would not go anywhere with her. This reinforced that I should try to escalate no matter what to see what the girl is feeling and not waste time. She was hanging out there for like 10 minutes talking, but not interested in anything sexual with me, as she wouldn’t even grab my hand. They left after the ten minutes had passed, I think things were not going well with Paul’s girl either. I maybe should have ejected after the second hand toss anyway because that girl was clearly not down. Still, I was having fun vibing with her.
I reapproached the mixed looking girl after seeing her again upstairs. This time the interaction lasted longer. I was talking to her on her way outside. Her friends were hovering around again and I could tell that her friend was thinking about snagging her away from me again. The guy really didn’t give a fuck. I isolated her outside and started going hard with physical escalation. She was giving me some serious fuck me eyes so I sort of wrapped my arms around her and pushed her against the wall with her friends right there. I think I should have rolled off faster after doing this I put a lot of pressure on her and her friend tried to take her away. I quickly turned to the friend and said “I like your friend, can I just have a second to talk to her” in a pretty commanding way. That actually bought me time. I think I gained the respect of her friend after this somehow by being assertive. That was pretty good. I then kept talking to my girl and she asked me what I was looking for. I joked “love, marriage” and then ultimately went with “passion”. That’s what I’m looking for right now actually. Just some fucking passion from a girl. Girls are just so boring and can’t display that fiery intimacy in the bedroom that I appreciate. I want someone who is comfortable with themselves and able to show that and get and stay in the moment. I tried to make out with her and got rejected and that fucked things up. I wasn’t sure why but she had this barrier with me for a lot of things that were non-physical. She wouldn’t tell me where she was from, what race she was, plans etc. It was bizarre. I think I had my first case of a girl who was compliant but not interested. After I tried to kiss though she grabbed her friend’s hand and left with her. I should have been more empathetic here. What I needed to do was take the pressure off and show her that I am a chill person who is aware of her feelings.
I got a quick lack of a response from a girl in the rap room downstairs. She had a plaid thing on and I walked up and asked her if it was a cardigan sweater or something like that to tease her. She sort of half turned and laughed and then started turning away again. I tried to plow through but she wasn’t giving me any response. I bounced after I tried to speak like 5 sentences. I think I did my best here. Perhaps I could have tried to be more engaging and demanding of attention here. I think my approach was too weak for this girl. I could have been direct and she might have liked that more.
I approached a girl on the couch by sitting next to her. She literally didn’t say anything but kept pointing to the bar. I was confused. She was being super unreactive which was interesting to see. I was like are you pointing to your boyfriend or something? She then nodded. Maybe she was a hot mute? I don’t know but I was confused and left. I think I was a bit in my head when I approached this girl. Seated sets are harder anyway so I’m glad I at least tried and saw what would happen.
Paul and I approached a set of two girls. They were wearing some stupid glowing cat ears. Paul grabbed the girl that he liked and started lifting her up and shit. That was pretty funny to see. She was loving it and we got pictures with her. I tried to occupy the other girl for Paul but she wouldn’t even look at me. When she did talk to me all she said was that she was married. I tried to say that do it for the relationship you need to get it out of your system line but it didn’t work ultimately. I feel like she was just calculating about how fast she could pull this girl away from Paul. I think that perhaps that line was too forward for the context? I am not sure how to wing in this situation. I think that I could have been more commanding again but that girl seemed foreign or something. That might be why she didn’t understand me. That set was kind of lame but whatever.
I missed some opportunities in a crowded space on the first floor. There were two hot asian girls there that I didn’t talk to because I was being a little bitch. Worse yet, they were both separately alone. This all happened in the span of about a minute, but I missed two perfectly good sets. I need to get my reaction time down for approaches. I hover-choded and thus a player in hell shed a few tears for me. At least this is happening less now when I go out.
I saw the married mom that I danced with at temple a few weeks ago again. I went to dance with her for a few songs and hung out with her and her friend. This was interesting because I knew that it would be sort of a waste of my time again (or is it? Maybe I should try to go out with her). I just was stoked on getting myself into a better mood with some physical interaction. I think this is a sign that I need to be better at creating my own emotions. That is kind of needy of me to want reactions from girls like that to feel better, but still, it’s fun to grind on a girl. I think this is a bit of a paradox. Also, I thought it was funny to grind her while simultaneously asking how her kid is doing. I got her snapchat this time and bounced after a few songs.
I approached an asian girl in a three set by the bar. She was with some friends and gave me the “I have a boyfriend excuse”. I went with the standard response to this. She seemed like she actually liked it but she was sort of getting pulled in by her group and they were like nooo we are about to take a shot. Perhaps I should have anticipated this and avoided the shot taking time. I think this might be an exception to approach all as soon as you see. Shots seem like a terrible time to approach. Then again maybe I could have been more conscious of the friends and convinced them that I was cool.
I talked to a Syrian girl downstairs and started the conversation with where are you from? Because I couldn’t think of anything else to say. Paul was talking to the other girl in the set and it seemed like it was not going well for him as he got blown out. I think I need to replace “where are you from?” with “let me guess where you are from” as my go to I don’t have a thing to say line. I then talked about chemical weapons because that was what I thought of when I thought of Syria. LMAO that was bad. I think that at least I said what I thought with no filter, but I maybe should have changed the subject at that point if I can’t think of a chill or funny thing to say.
The last interaction that I had was one in which I approached the mixed girl for a third time. I saw her outside so I asked Paul to pull over the car and I went up to her. I decided fuck it why not. I walked up and said that I pulled over the car to talk to her, while laughing to myself about it. Then I used a huge statement of empathy to show her that I am aware that I was going too far before. I told her that I was aware that her getting picked up is not a normal situation for her and that I’m actually really nice. This noticeably sparked her attraction for me. It was cool to see the statement of empathy bringing me back into the game with her like this. After this she was super into touching me and we danced some salsa together after I told her I danced and she said she did a little. Then she started straight up grinding on me and putting her tits in on my chest in front of me. This was intense and I started getting really turned on actually. I tried to make out with her again and that kind of turned her off again. I think maybe she had a boyfriend or didn’t want to kiss in front of her friends or something. I probably should have realized that this girl was trying not to look like a slut and that manifested in not wanting a guy to try to kiss her. I think I was sort of angling too hard for the kiss in general. It’s not essential to get it to pull. After I did that she sort of was like ok the uber is here let’s go. I felt like I lost it after the kiss attempt so I asked her if she wanted me to leave. She said yes so I bounced. Perhaps if I just stayed chill or even deescalated after she danced on me that would have been better. Still, I learned a ton from this. Persistence is sexy, and empathy deescalation is super powerful if you overdo it.
Thoughts / SP:
- To truly have self confidence when out, I need to learn how to feel totally comfortable with or without a social alliance in the venue. I’ll have to generate that vibe out of nothing but myself. I can go out alone or at least approach alone more often to build this actively. I do end up approaching alone a lot when out so it shouldn’t be that big a deal.
- Self-amusement and randomness dialogue is pretty good for adding to the fun
- Learn how to deal with friend groups coming in so that I can keep commanding the attention of the girl.
- Lead more
- I should try to escalate no matter what to see what the girl is feeling and not waste time
- Roll off faster after escalating
- Being assertive can gain the respect of friends, and show you are sober, confident, and determined
- More empathy when I put on the pressure too hard
- Get my reaction time down for approaches
- Don’t approach during shots
- Be more conscious of the friends and convinced them that I am cool
- Change the subject if I can’t think of a chill or funny thing to say
- Statements of empathy can bring you back into the game
- Don’t angle too hard for the kiss in general. It’s not essential to get it to pull.
- Stayed chill or even deescalate after girls ramp up kino on you
- Persistence is sexy, and empathy deescalation is super powerful after a misstep